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Lennar Corporation (LEN-B)

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  • D
    David
    50% dividend hike for LEN! And KB now up 10% on the open.
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    Justin
    I'll be buying a new home in St George Utah. Builders there build a better home and pay realtors a commission !
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    violet
    Spin-off will create additional value. Asset light, management fee businesses should get a good valuation. Plus monetizing $5 bil or so in land assets means 15% of the market cap is being converted to cash. No impact on profits from doing so at the home building level. So in the end you have a stock at $106 that will generate $16-17 in EPS (so LEN trades at 6.5X 2022E EPS) and receive cash and spin-off shares worth $5 bil ($16.67 per share) and $2 bil or so, respectively. The ongoing home building business will be very asset light and produce 30% ROE and likely 100% FCF conversion. This is NOT currently “in the stock”. Lennar is a dominant builder in almost all of its markets, giving it enormous scale advantages, and will maintain 5 years worth of optioned land held on the books for less than $1.5 bil (5% of mkt cap). The buybacks to come should be enormous. 10% of shares can easily be retired every year just out of FCF. Zero net debt. The valuation should begin to gravitate toward NVR’s even if margins pull back somewhat in future years.

    How do you compete with DHI, PHM, LEN for land, labor, materials if you are a smaller builder? Mighty hard.

    Lennar’s FCF just this year will approximate the mkt cap of the 6th largest builder in the US (KBH, MTH, TMHC). That’s amazing!
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    David
    Don't worry about today's downdraft! It was a combo of tax trimming that was not done until the tax year changed, and rates popping up.
    Psst to sellers: The whole world knows that rates are heading up A BIT. Not a reason to sell!
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    First L
    Net earnings per diluted share increased 39% to $3.91 (increased 55% to $4.36, excluding mark to market losses on strategic technology investments)

    Net earnings increased 35% to $1.2 billion (increased 50% to $1.3 billion, excluding mark to market losses on strategic technology investments)

    Revenues increased 24% to $8.4 billion

    Deliveries increased 11% to 17,819 homes

    New orders increased 2% to 15,539 homes; new orders dollar value increased 16% to $7.3 billion

    Backlog increased 26% to 23,771 homes; backlog dollar value increased 45% to $11.4 billion

    Homebuilding operating earnings of $1.8 billion, compared to operating earnings of $1.1 billion

    Financial Services operating earnings of $111.4 million, compared to operating earnings of $151.2 million

    Multifamily operating earnings of $9.3 million, compared to operating earnings of $26.7 million

    Lennar Other operating loss of $176.2 million, compared to operating loss of $1.2 million

    Years of supply owned homesites decreased to 3.0 years

    Controlled homesites increased to 59%

    Homebuilding cash and cash equivalents of $2.7 billion

    Retired $850 million of homebuilding senior notes due in fiscal year 2022

    Repurchased 10 million shares of Lennar common stock for $977.4 million

    Homebuilding debt to total capital of 18.3%, the lowest in the Company's history
  • D
    David
    WSJ: The Wall Street Journal
    WSJ just now: "Millennials’ growing appetite for homeownership is boosting demand for housing that economists think will remain strong for years"
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    Jay
    As of Wednesday's close 2.6% of Lennar share float was being sold short. Everyone is all on one side of the boat with this stock going long many people on margin. Without short sellers, when this thing falls, nothing but air below. Be careful if you are long this stock.
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    Robert
    The 176 million dollar question....just WTH is strategic technology investment (loss)?

    Just drop a line in to exclude a 176 million dollar loss and nobody will notice???
  • s
    steve r
    Home building is a cyclical and rate sensitive industry. Growth has peaked meaning the stock price has peaked. In a strong pre-Covid economy with low rates this stock was at a high of 70-ish. Look for this thing to drop back down to 90 in Q1 as the 30 year fixed moves towards 4%. 
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    David
    Very positive segment on homebuilders on Fast Money last night. We have a long way to go.
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    David
    KB Home earnings report helping us this morning. Sales, earnings, average home price - all good. KB is up 5% pre-market.
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    terry
    CNBC the exchange saying higher rates will hurt housing=normal rates use to be 5 or 6 %, the more I watch cnbc (market coverage) the more they manipulate the market.
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    sohbat
    we look forward to 2022, we expect to deliver approximately 67,000 homes with a 27.0% - 27.5% gross margin for the year, with more or less 12,500 homes at a gross margin of approximately 26.75% in the first quarter.

    67,000 homes in 2022, but only 12,500 in the first quarter?
  • V
    Vincent
    Margins strong, demand strong, great mgmt., S,G&A extremely low, delayed closings will eventually close, L&M increases can be passed to buyers for the most part, minor rate hikes will not derail the demand, buy.
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    tom
    Len has 28 billion dollars in revenues a year,same as viacom. Len at $116 a share. Viacom at $30 plus $3.25% dividend. Something is wrong
  • M
    Mike
    Nothing to do but re-load for next push up
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    Mike
    Double digit % increase in business activity, paid down a billion in debt & openly declared a floor in the stock price just below where it is now - has to be one of my most solid holds into a boom construction year where supply chain & labor constraints will be entirely shed - New home buyers really are champing at the bit, FOMO is running rampant out there, you'll see. Go ahead & sell without a real thesis, then come back & try to chase it later -
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    Ai
    Why did she say GAAP earnings?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re633ZbYhbc
    Lennar EPS misses, beats on revenue
    www.youtube.com
  • J
    Joshua
    Holding
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    Jim
    what will be the catalyst for the homebuilders crash.......the 7 interest rate hikes next year?....always the pump before dump