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Herbalife Nutrition Ltd. (HLF)

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22.00+0.41 (+1.90%)
At close: 04:00PM EDT
22.23 +0.23 (+1.05%)
After hours: 06:04PM EDT

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    Eric
    Nice increase today!
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    Beans
    Looking good. Great value here…trading below half of revs and low PE. Started adding around these levels and glad I kept averaging down!
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    Sam
    sell now back to 20.00 end of day
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    Beans
    Looking good. Severely undervalued. Should be at $30+
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    @MRBTRADES
    Waiting for $19.00 at the end of the day
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    John
    "Carl Icahn Tendered Its Herbalife Shares Into The Co.'s Self-Tender Offer"
    Translated:
    HLF sacrificed the health of its balance sheet to artificially push up its share price, so shareholders and insiders can cash out their positions at high prices, leaving a company with no assets left to be seized in future lawsuits. This looks to be the stage of the party when the sober guests start leaving.
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    Wow. Carl Icahn not doing so hot. He owned 55 million shares of Hertz at end of 1st quarter. Hertz traded at average of $13.70 during the quarter. Now, Hertz just filed for bankruptcy.

    Is something similar in store for his HLF holdings?
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    Michael Rinstock
    I am still puzzled. How did HLF go from about $60 to $110 with flat revenue and flat net income?
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    Michael Rinstock
    Volume Point for China is -22.5%. Did I read it right?
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    TrendisFriend
    The FTC’s allegations filed in Los Angeles federal court left no doubt that it concluded that Herbalife had been ripping people off: “Consumers have suffered and will continue to suffer substantial monetary loss as a result of [Herbalife’s] violations of Section 5(a) of the FTC Act.” (That's the section that bars "unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce.”)

    FTC Chairwoman Edith Ramirez said after the settlement that "Herbalife is going to have to start operating legitimately." That would mark a real change, she suggested.

    To some extent, perhaps it did. Herbalife's come-on to distributors today says that they can earn money "selling Herbalife products that you buy at a discount" or "sponsoring someone who either sells Herbalife products or purchases them at a discount for their own or household use." It specifically says that distributors "cannot earn money simply for recruiting or sponsoring someone."
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    BidNow
    I'll listen to the CC, but I'm not particularly impressed. These are about the numbers I expected, but with still 2MM extra shares outstanding and $75MM less net equity than I expected. Net profit margin is dropping like a rock, inventory down, PP&E down is disinvestment and milking the company to pay off Carl.

    How much is left in the stock buyback fund? What are the particulars for the S/T debt? Are these guys really the financial jeanusus that Carl said they were?