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Fortescue Metals Group Limited (FSUGY)
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Just reporting in I got to my 1000 shares and only wish I had cashed out a couple of good stocks to get more,
but that’s just greed on my part. Very thankful my other choices are doing well also in a difficult time for
so many. Thank you Foster for your help.
Best Luck To All
@Katerina @John. John first, people are very excited about this company and if you watch the trading on the home Australian symbol, FMG.AX, you will be astounded by the volume. I too was very perplexed over the last year with the lack of trading on our U.S. ADR, FSUGY or the other one that represents only one share of the Aussie ordinary shares. I can't wrap my mind around how big institutional investors trade in the Aussies shares but I assume they have Aussie trading accounts. This was my largest single holding until the price collapsed mid year. So I not only lost a lot of face value, but I also got nervous and sold 25% of what I owned. I still have enough to where if it came back into mid 30's, it would still be my largest holding. So Katerina, I have been confused how we can be the lowest cost producer with a low grade iron ore. I am clearly able to do that math. It must be that we have lower mining costs and shipping costs, but the product itself is not high grade. Who has the best quality and is it good enough to offset their higher production costs?? Last but not least, I also own quite a bit of South 32, which is basically an Aussie Aluminum producer and secondly has huge Manganese reserves and production. Also, S32 recently got into copper in Chile in a big way! So there is no overlap with these two companies at all. For instance, I would never buy VALE in addition to FMG. Your thoughts on SOUHY?? Katerina, I gather that you think he is going to use a lot of our Iron ore cash flow to fund the whole Green Ammonia / Blue Hydrogen plan? I am neutral on it. I value your thoughts on that as well.
Apparently not many people are excited about FSUGY since the board is so slow. I wish I had been able to buy even more and I have learned to continue buying even as the cost rises, just waiting for more distributions to arrive. I truly expect this to be at least $60.00 in two years.
I am recommending it to everyone but it takes a lot of study for them to see what I see.
I bought at $25.25. I don't know about the company's new direction?
Is there any difference between FSUMF and FSUGY?
What about australien iron ore companies make steel and sell it, instead selling iron ore?
For all of you below discussing FMG future dividends and future hydrogen production. There will be billions in build out costs for hydrogen production facilities. Here is my rub. Where is all this hydrogen capital coming from? I really wish he would have retained even half of that $10 billion payout last month. It would simply be insane to borrow money to build out hydrogen facilities when we had it sitting in the bank. Instead, he pays it all out to us and then announces this entire new expensive plan. I am all for the hydrogen plan, I just want to use iron ore money to do it, not bank money or new bonds.
Big share price jump in Australia. Not sure what caused it. Other iron ore stock are up too, though visibly less than this stock.
I believe that we in the iron and steel sector will probably have enough time until spring to invest in cheap stocks from these areas.
As the largest buyer, China will probably (??) wait until the end of its Olympic Games in the spring, in order to then again massively push ahead with its construction activity and the expansion of the infrastructure (Silk Road).
The communist party around President Xi will do everything in its power to present itself to the world public in the best possible light during the Winter Olympics.
This also includes absolutely clean air in China, which can only be achieved if the iron melt, with its air pollution and the resulting smog, is reduced to an absolute minimum until the world public has observed it.
After that we will see again massively increasing prices for iron ore.
Anyway, that's my assumption of how things will go by next spring.
Until then, I will continue to invest in FMG and hope that my assumptions may be correct.
Good luck everyone invested :)
Torn between this and RIO. Both are down big in the last three months. Both have strong balance sheets, history of profitability (even when iron ore was less than half current price), making billions, paying big dividends, etc. Both seem like bargains. Which is better?
Any idea wht the dividend in March will be?
Whoever successfully caught the falling knife on this one has done very well so far…
I real about this company’s massive green plans. I can’t understand why it’s stock price is crashing with unbelievable dividends & earnings? Like Zack, many analysts are screaming sell? Does this company have plenty of Australia iron deposits for future mining? Seems to me, green steel is the future of the steel industry?
Top 20 Aussie stock and one of the best long term 10-20% dividend stocks on the planet and a super low cost producer of a key commodity for infrastructure spending and industry. gold plated supply chain with all the best mining tech and only $1b net debt. Probably $3.50 dividends this year in total. Amazing. Hydrogen and green steel to come with FFI subsidiary. Not financial advice to do anything.
I bought more today with my dividends and some other dividends. November is a great distribution income
month for me and I will continue to buy. I rode 200 shares all the way down. I now have 410 I will continue to buy to increase my holdings to at least 1000 I hope to get my basis under $25.00 or less.
The turn has happened and although they may not get back to $40.00 for a long time they will go up.
China will not keep their steel mills closed and risk permanent market share loss and will settle for a partial
victory in reducing Iron Ore input cost. Fortescue will obviously use this period to diversify their customer
base as much as possible. Being the lowest cost producer they of course will take share from the three larger
but higher cost mines. This reminds me very much of the period after the crash in 2020 I had great distribution units one got down to a $1.68 a unit and paid $.66 distribution unreal. Of course this is not a
universal crash just a strategic attack on the Iron Industry but the opportunity is huge.
I know these boards have agenda driven statements, that’s not me, I sincerely want everyone to do well
I have been blessed to even be functional.
I hope my ramblings help anyone, as a kind soul helped me about the $1.68 shares I paid $9.00 for which
ended today at $8.44: it still pays $.66 but if you bought and bought at 2,3,4,5,6,7 it does add up.
He told me they are a solid company not going away buy all you can.
The time to buy is when it’s down of course it could dip lower but it will recover over time.
Best Luck to All
Good news, Zacks just moved FSUGY to a number 5 must sell yesterday. Of course it went up, who recommends you sell at the bottom and buy near the top, Zacks.
Best to all I will be reinvesting my dividends.
On the plus side-Under statistics: Low P.E. of 5.83, 52 wk. change 108.68%, high R.O.E. of 31.35%, (yoy)Q.R.G. of 100.3%,
(yoy) Q.E.G. of 1184.3%. These are AMAZING NUMBERS!
On the minus side-Under Historical Data: Annual Stock closing price 12/01/2014 $4.45, 2015 $2.68, 2016 $8.38, 2017 $7.64,
------------------------------------------------2018 $5.95 and currently @about $12.00/share. Add to these the irregular dividends,
there is a lot to be desired.
For the current and next year, at the least, a quarterly dividend of $0.30 or a semi annual of $0.60 should go a long way to prove the validity of the "statistical" estimates of the company's growth to be trusted.
Currently owns 5k shares and FSUGY may soar again to a higher level (imho).
I've been a long of FSUMF, the OTC of FMG, for several months. Will I receive this latest dividend?
The Chinese are sharp, tough and ruthless; they are gaming several things to reduce their cost going forward.
Iron is definitely one. I added a little FSUGY to lower my basis and will add more as some of my distributions come in. Fortunately my first purchases were under $35.00.
Would any long term holders have some thoughts to share as to dividends stability.
Semi annual dividend declared Aug 30 @ A$2.11 per share. Dividend record date is Sept 7. Ex-dividend is Sept 6. Payout is 9/30. FUSGY (US ADR) = 2x A$2.11 or $4.22. At AUD/USD of .73 US dividend will be approximately $3.08. Sweet!
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