MDLIVE—-brilliant move: congrats guys & girls. Could be in response to several things: multiple clients/patients asking about it, maybe a State added the tele-MD as a requirement to conduct business in the particular state, or in response to a very large RFP.
I
Tempted to buy in here but nervous about the Amazon partnership. Companies that go into business with them tend to go out of business. Opinions?
J
What am I missing? To me this earnings report was great and the only reason it is dropping is because it barely missed analysts' predictions. $11.45 net income before reporting the buybacks is a great quarter and almost half the year's earnings. I see this as nothing but a positive but I'm here to listen to opposing perspectives.
T
Hello is anyone out there?
r
Leon Cooperman is one of the most respected investors on Wall Street. Only two weeks ago he had CI as one of his top seven value stock holdings. And that's when CI was 227. So even with the miss CI is still a good stock to hold. It's more likely to see 225 then 185.
M
Yesterday after the earnings perfect chance to buy first time, I am very happy to be on this board!
J
CI would have had an $11 EPS the previous quarter if not for the buybacks. The next quarter their predicted to report an $4.50 EPS. Cigna has not stopped making money this quarter. One thing they did stop was the buybacks. Sooooo.....
J
Last thought on CI today: Their earnings are up 8% ttm and there's about 5% less shares in existence than there were a year ago. Mid-February last year their shares were going for around $220. I feel good about where Cigna is right now and my investment.
T
At $208 a forward PE of 10.4 and a dividend yield of 1.92% .
T
Last thought before market - guess I’ll have to hope that they’ve decided to start buybacks this morning lol
T
Update : watching the market I’m seeing energy & healthcare sectors falling out of favor . Internet seems to have stolen the new year . While I still believe Cigna will see an earnings pop - I’m lowering the after ER range to $230-$250
r
I loaded up at 209-210. Wish I could undo it.
Z
I think if it drops enough,it’s going to be one of the best buying opportunities ever. This is just an opportunity.
T
Momentum wise Cigna is currently weak despite hitting a new 52 week high Thursday . That being said , management has instituted a solid $4.00 dividend and committed to buying back stock & reducing debt to match its peer group . Further , they have the earnings , cash flow and recent $6B cash divesture funds to do exactly that . If there was ever a stock primed to run .... this one is . Political risk and market risk not withstanding .
T
If we can maintain 220+going into earnings, we’re golden.
J
This should be up a LOT more than it is - and I’m not sure why it is fading as day goes along.
T
Bounced off the low so I’m hopeful
T
Today’s press release on “integrated care” is the perfect storm. It’s been what I have been touting as the benefit from buying Express Scripts: When you have ONE view of the COMPLETE patient; rx’s filled or sometimes more importantly, maintenance meds for high blood pressure etc late to be refilled, or not filled at all, and the complete medical history of the patient, there is no one else better to assess the current condition of the patient. Traditional pharmacies only see pharmacy claims. Doctors only see what THEY ALONE prescribed. CIGNA’s integrated care model brings all this data under one roof, in one place, where sophisticated algorithms and teams of pharmacists and nurses identify patients most likely to have an adverse medical event. These patients or their prescribers are contacted to try and avoid that ‘upcoming adverse event’. Avoiding the cost of even one visit to the ER or even a fall leading to an ER visit with a hip fracture and orthopedic surgery and a protracted recovery in a rehab center is incredible is directly measurable in dollars saved. Take for example, the patient above who falls, goes to ER, hip replacement, extended stay in rehab center (think Covid now)—-> how do you measure the psychological toll this takes on the patient and their families ?This happening to a grandparent can directly impact easily 100 members of their families with worry, days taken off from work, transportation, etc. The psychological costs can never be measured. How do you place a $ value on grief? Disclaimer: I do not work for CIGNA, but do own the stock.
r
is this thing dead until the next earnings report? Well, i'm ok as long as it stays above 200.
This is just an opportunity.
That being said , management has instituted a solid $4.00 dividend and committed to buying back stock & reducing debt to match its peer group .
Further , they have the earnings , cash flow and recent $6B cash divesture funds to do exactly that . If there was ever a stock primed to run .... this one is . Political risk and market risk not withstanding .
When you have ONE view of the COMPLETE patient; rx’s filled or sometimes more importantly, maintenance meds for high blood pressure etc late to be refilled, or not filled at all, and the complete medical history of the patient, there is no one else better to assess the current condition of the patient. Traditional pharmacies only see pharmacy claims. Doctors only see what THEY ALONE prescribed. CIGNA’s integrated care model brings all this data under one roof, in one place, where sophisticated algorithms and teams of pharmacists and nurses
identify patients most likely to have an adverse medical event. These patients or their prescribers are contacted to try and avoid that ‘upcoming adverse event’.
Avoiding the cost of even one visit to the ER or even a fall leading to an ER visit with a hip fracture and orthopedic surgery and a protracted recovery in a rehab center is incredible is directly measurable in dollars saved.
Take for example, the patient above who falls, goes to ER, hip replacement, extended stay in rehab center (think Covid now)—-> how do you measure the psychological toll this takes on the patient and their families ?This happening to a grandparent can directly impact easily 100 members of their families with worry, days taken off from work, transportation, etc. The psychological costs can never be measured. How do you place a $ value on grief?
Disclaimer: I do not work for CIGNA, but do own the stock.