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Rockwell Automation Inc (ROK) Q2 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

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Rockwell Automation Inc (NYSE: ROK)
Q2 2019 Earnings Call
April 25, 2019, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks

  • Questions and Answers

  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Thank you for holding and welcome to Rockwell Automation's Quarterly Conference Call. I need to remind everyone that today's conference call is being recorded. Later in the call, we will open up the line for questions. (Operator Instructions)

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Steve Etzel, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer. Mr. Etzel please go ahead.

Steven W. Etzel -- Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer

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Good morning and thank you for joining us for Rockwell Automation's second quarter fiscal 2019 earnings release conference call. With me today is Blake Moret, our Chairman and CEO; and Patrick Goris, our CFO.

Our results were released earlier this morning and the press release and charts have been posted to our website. Both the press release and charts include reconciliations to non-GAAP measures. A webcast of this call will be available at that website for replay for the next 30 days.

Before we get started I need to remind you that our comments will include statements related to the expected future results of our company and are therefore forward-looking statements. Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a wide range of risks and uncertainties that are described in our earnings release and detailed in all of our SEC filings.

So, with that, I'll hand the call over to Blake.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Steve. Good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us on the call today. I'll start with some key points for the quarter, so please turn to page 3 in the slide deck. Our results for the quarter reflect profitable growth in all regions led by strong process industry performance. We saw accelerating growth in Information Solutions and Connected Services reflecting adoption of the Connected Enterprise.

Our growth was tempered by weaker than expected automotive sales which were down about 20% year-over-year. This impacted our product sales in the quarter, particularly in North America.

In this region, we saw a strong product growth in January. February was weak with orders picking up in late March. Globally, organic sales were up 3.6%. From a vertical perspective, growth was once again led by Heavy Industries which grew high-single-digits and Consumer which grew mid-single-digits.

Heavy Industries' growth was led by oil and gas, pulp and paper, and mining. Oil and gas grew double-digits. In Consumer, Life Sciences was very strong. I already mentioned Automotive, but within Transportation, Tire grew nicely up double-digits. Our KPI for process sales grew 10% organically. The weakness in automotive drove the 2% decline in logics.

Commenting on regional performance in the quarter. North America, which for us is the combination of the U.S. and Canada, grew 2% organically. While Automotive weakness significantly impacted the overall growth rate for this region, growth was broad-based across a wide range of industries.

In pulp and paper, we won a significant process and power control order this quarter with Green Bay Packaging. EMEA was up over 5% in the quarter led by Consumer and Tire. Asia grew about 4% led by Heavy Industries and Automotive. China grew 6.5%. Latin America sales were up 13% led by Heavy Industries.

I'll make a few additional comments about our Q2 results. Adjusted EPS was up 8% and segment operating margin expanded 40 basis points year-over-year. Book-to-bill performance for our Solutions and Services businesses was 1.09 in Q2. Backlog remains high. Patrick will elaborate on our second quarter financial performance in his remarks.

Let's move on now to guidance for full year fiscal 2019. Forecast continue to call for industrial production growth. We continue to see broad-based growth with strong financial performance. However, given the weakness in Automotive, we are reducing the high end of our guidance range for organic sales growth and adjusted EPS.

We expect our fiscal 2019 organic sales to be up 4.5% year-over-year at mid-oint of guidance. Currency is now expected to reduce growth by two percentage points. Including the revised impact of currency, our fiscal 2019 guidance is sales of about $6.8 billion. Mid-point of the updated adjusted EPS guidance range is now $9 compared to $9.05 in previous guidance. As Patrick will discuss in a few minutes, this guidance does not include the impacts of the Sensia joint venture.

Moving onto slide four. I'll provide an update on two recent strategic investments to increase long-term value for our customers and share owners. Our strategic partnership with PTC is progressing well. We're winning profitable new business across all focus industries and geographies and some of our engagements are expanding to multisite rollouts.

Even in Automotive where overall spending is down, customers are excited about our FactoryTalk InnovationSuite. Recently, Ford decided to expand this new offering to additional locations. Another customer, ECARX, an affiliate of Geely Auto Group, chose the FactoryTalk InnovationSuite to improve production management and quality.

In Consumer, Rockwell Automation is partnering with Stanley Black & Decker to bring the Connected Enterprise to life through their Manufactory 4.0 digital manufacturing division.

As shown on the right side of this slide, in February, we announced that we will be forming the Sensia joint venture with Schlumberger, creating the oil and gas industry's first fully integrated automation solutions provider for the digital oilfield. The announcement has been well received by target customers. Activities to form the joint venture are well under way.

Now, I'll turn it over to Patrick to provide more detail around our Q2 results and our 2019 sales and earnings guidance.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Blake and good morning everyone. I will start on slide five, key financial information second quarter. Reported sales in the quarter were about flat year-over-year, with 3.6% organic growth mostly offset by currency translation of 3.2%. Organic growth was lower than we expected, driven by weaker automotive sales in North America.

Segment operating margin remained strong at 21.3% and was up 40 basis points compared to last year. A margin tailwind from organic growth was partially offset by higher investment spend.

General corporate net expense of $27 million was up $2 million compared to last year. Adjusted EPS of $2.04 was up $0.15 compared to the second quarter of last year, an increase of 8%. The year-over-year increase in adjusted EPS is primarily due to the benefit of higher sales and lower share count, partially offset by higher investment spending and higher net interest expense.

Free cash flow was $105 million in the quarter, about 45% conversion and weaker than normal for us in Q2. There are several elements that contributed to this.

First, our tax payments are overweight to the first half this year and specifically in Q2. We paid about half of what we expect to pay for the full year in Q2, including the first installment on the repatriation tax that is owed as a result of Tax Reform. Overall, tax payments were about $140 million in the quarter, about $65 million higher compared to Q2 last year.

Second, we issued $1 billion of long-term debt in the quarter. In advance of this transaction, we entered into interest rate hedges. We closed out the hedges at the time we issued debt which resulted in us paying about $36 million to settle the hedges. Even though this relates to the debt financing and this amount gets amortized to interest expense over the length of the debt term, this payment gets reported as an operating cash outflow, which reduced free cash flow in the quarter.

Working capital was another factor particularly inventory. We've talked in the past about activities related to our supply chain, including some manufacturing refoot printing in Europe and the relocation of our U.S. distribution center. We have built safety stock to facilitate these activities and we expect to reduce this inventory by fiscal year-end. I will talk about full year free cash flow when I discuss guidance.

A few additional items to cover not shown on the slide. For adjusted EPS, average diluted shares outstanding in the quarter were 120 million, down 8.5 million or about 6.5% from last year. We repurchased about 1.4 million shares in the quarter at a cost of $236 million. Through March 31st, repurchases amount to $529 million and are slightly ahead of pace to get to a $1 billion full year target. At March 31st, we had $580 million remaining under our share repurchase authorization.

Slide 6 provides the sales and margin performance overview for the Architecture & Software segment. Year-over-year sales declined 2.2% in this segment. Organic sales were up 1.2% year-over-year. Acquisitions added one-tenth of a point currency translation decreased sales by 3.5%. For the quarter, segment margin contracted 30 basis points year-over-year, yet remains very strong at 28.4%.

Moving on to slide 7, Control Products & Solutions. Reported sales were up 2.5% for the segment, organic sales growth was 5.7%, currency translation reduced sales by 3.2%. Growth in our Solutions and Services businesses in this segment was strong at over 8%. The Product businesses in this segment were up about 2% on an organic basis. Operating margin for the segment was up 140 basis points compared to Q2 last year, primarily due to higher sales largely offset by higher investment spending.

The next slide 8 provides an overview of our sales performance by region. Blake covered most of this slide in his remarks, so I'll just mentioned that growth was broad-based across geographies. Also, we saw a good growth in emerging markets, which were up high-single digits compared to last year.

This takes us to slide 9 guidance. Before I cover what is on the slide, I will make some comments about Sensia the JV that we and Schlumberger announced in February this year. JV formation activities are under way and regulatory approvals are pending.

As Blake mentioned, the impact on our financial statement is dependent on timing of close, and we have therefore not included the estimated impact of Sensia in our fiscal 2019 guidance. Assuming a close by the end of our fiscal year September 30, we continue to estimate a $0.05 EPS headwind for fiscal 2019. With that, let me move to guidance.

We now project sales of about $6.8 billion for full year fiscal 2019. We reduced the high end of our organic growth range to reflect continued expected weakness in Automotive. Our organic sales growth range is now 3.7% to 5.3% with the midpoint of 4.5%. Currency translation is now expected to be about at two point headwind. We continue to expect segment operating margin of about 22%. Our adjusted effective tax rate for fiscal 2019 is now about 19% compared to 19.5% in our January guidance.

We're also lowering the upper end of our adjusted EPS guidance range. Our new range is $8.85 to $9.15. Compared to prior guidance, volume and mix headwinds are partially offset by reduced spending, and the benefit from the lower tax rate. We are assuming 119.5 million average diluted shares outstanding for fiscal 2019.

With respect to tariffs, we remain on track to neutralize the incremental costs through supply chain changes and negotiations with vendors, as well as targeted price increases on affected products. We continue to project free cash flow conversion of about 100% of adjusted income.

General corporate-net is now projected to be about $95 million to $100 million. As a reminder, general corporate-net now excludes interest income.

Net interest expense for fiscal 2019 is expected to amount to about $90 million, consistent with our January guidance.

In short, we expect another year of strong financial performance. Our updated guidance at the midpoint projects 11% adjusted EPS growth on 4.5% organic sales growth and the year-over-year increase in operating margin of about 0.5 point.

With that, I'll hand it back over to Steve.

Steven W. Etzel -- Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer

Thank you. Before we start the Q&A, I just wanted to say that we would like to get to as many of you as possible. So please limit yourself to one question and a quick follow-up. Thank you. Operator let's take our first question.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. And your first question here comes from Scott Davis from Melius Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

Hey good morning guys.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

I can't remember a quarter where process was in that double digit, but everything else was a little bit slower. And help -- I know your business is lumpy, so quarter-to-quarter sometimes isn't the best way to look at things. But help us understand really the CapEx versus OpEx that you're seeing out there and maybe the type of visibility that you see on projects of various sizes.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

So continuing the theme that we've talked about in the past few quarters, Heavy Industries continues to be strong and Heavy Industries are biased toward process application. So we had a really strong quarter in oil and gas. Mining continues strong due in part to high backlog that we entered the year with. And within those, we're seeing a mix of both capital projects as well as ongoing small projects and servicing the installed base.

I mention as well in my prepared remarks, I've talked about Information Solutions and Connected Services growth accelerating and there was a fair part of that that was in process industries. So for instance, we received our largest ever MES order at the European Pharma Company Lonza and that is encouraging because it's new value in these process applications.

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

No that's helpful. And maybe this is a little bit picky again, but in auto, I mean we know auto sales are relatively weak, but is there any visibility on Auto CapEx coming back? I mean I know there is -- seem to be a crap ton of EV launches coming in the next two years and just help us understand the cadence of when that spend may start to really kick in?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Yes. We're already seeing the very front end of what we do expect to be increased spend for CapEx in EV. It's still a small part of our overall total in Auto, but EV is set to double this year for us. It's just that it's -- we'll see some of that in the balance of this fiscal year and then we do see continued increases into '20. I think within the given CapEx spending for the general auto market, the capacity and the model changes have to contend with spending at the brand owners for investment in EV and autonomous vehicles. So they're new contenders for that CapEx spend regardless of the size of it.

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

Okay. That's helpful Blake. Good luck. Thank you.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Scott.

Operator

Your next question comes from Steve Tusa with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Steve Tusa -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

Hey guys. Good morning.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning Steve.

Steve Tusa -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

What are you seeing over in China? And how do we kind of read or maybe link what's going on with some of the robotics guys and some of the Japanese suppliers in there to kind of what's happening in your business? So I know that there's definitely capacity being added, but a bit of slowing in that end market. I know you guys don't do anything kind of directly for the robot, but like, how do we kind of reconcile what you guys are seeing versus what you're seeing from those customers?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

So we did have a reasonably strong quarter in China with 6.5% growth. That included a growth in automotive. And I think one of the reasons for that is China, the percentage of investment in EV is probably a little bit ahead in some of the other markets. And as we've talked about, we have a really good readiness to serve in the EV portion of the auto market.

So I think that was part of it. We've also heard that some of the stimulus spending in China has helped prompt growth in metro and water projects and those are both good industries for us as well.

Steve Tusa -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

So how much do you think EV for you guys? How much was Auto in China up? And then how much of -- how much was EV if you can break that up at all? And then also from order timing perspective, would they order all like the robots first and then order your stuff? Or does it all come at the same time?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

So Auto was up mid-single digits in China for us. I don't know the split of EV versus traditional internal combustion projects other than to say it would be a higher weighting toward EV than in other parts of the world.

And then in terms of the spend in the cycle for robotics, a lot of it has to do when our orders are released to the tooling suppliers and then when they decide to enter the orders to us, but I don't know that there's going to be a strict sequence when the robot orders are placed and when orders are placed for our products.

Steve Tusa -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

Okay. Thanks a lot. I appreciate the color.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Your next question comes from John Inch with Gordon Haskett. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

John Inch -- Gordon Haskett -- Analyst

Thank you. Good morning everybody.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, John.

John Inch -- Gordon Haskett -- Analyst

Good morning, guys. So the down 20% in Auto, is that the new run rate embedded in your guidance like Patrick for the year? And -- or are there things that you think moderate that cadence improve it so to speak toward the back half or into next year?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. John I'll make a couple of comments and then Patrick will add a little bit. So we mentioned that we were down in the quarter around 20% in Auto and we're expecting the full year to be down about 10%. We do have line of sight for some projects that have already started to make purchases. We expect some of that will show up in the year.

And with that Patrick maybe some additional comment.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

We don't expect year-over-year growth in any quarter Q3 or Q4 in Automotive, John. Sequentially we expect Q3 and Q4 to pick up just a little bit low single-digit. Flat to slightly up and that refers to some of the larger projects that we know are in flight that Blake was referring to.

John Inch -- Gordon Haskett -- Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. Switching actually just to the JV with Schlumberger, Sensia. How are you guys going to gauge success in this business? And I don't think I saw what financial targets you would establish but is there anything you could share with us?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. It's a double-digit profitable growth. When you look at the digital oilfield markets, which is already over $5 billion, we believe the market itself is growing double digits. So we, obviously, expect to grow above the market. And so it is a very simply profitable growth in the upstream oil and gas business.

From a financial target point of view, John we talked about one. We expect to achieve our financial criteria through acquisition so 10% free cash flow yield in year's three to five.

The other thing is for fiscal 2019, assuming a close at the end of this fiscal year, which is not completely in our control given the regulatory approvals, we expect $0.05 EPS headwind. For fiscal 20, we expect it to be above EPS neutral including about $0.10 of fees and intangible amortization

John Inch -- Gordon Haskett -- Analyst

And Patrick not to get nitpicky what's the nature of dilution. Is that because you're giving up profit to the JV, but don't you capture that back or is it investment spending?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

There are setup costs and deal fees and transaction fees associated with that in fiscal 2019. And if we close it by the end of this fiscal year, we would see some of the setup costs but wouldn't see any of the revenue that comes with the JV.

John Inch -- Gordon Haskett -- Analyst

Got it. Busy morning. I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, John.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, John.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

Thank you. Good morning.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Jeff.

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

Just two quick things from me. Just first on investment spending. Patrick, I think you said you're expecting lower investment spending. Are you just bringing that down in concert with the change in the revenue guide? Or is there some other kind of posture you're taking on investment spending here?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

No Jeff. You're right. During the -- during our second quarter, and as Blake mentioned we saw, weakness starting in February. We decided to push out some of our increased spending for the full year. Last year we talked -- last quarter we talked about $70-or-so million.

We're thinking about $20 million less, increase for the full year. This is going to be focused on lower discretionary spend. We're protecting, our most important investments of course.

And of that $50 million $55 million increase we're talking about now we still expect about two-thirds of that we would have seen in the first half of the year. So we've seen most of the call it ramp up and spend.

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

And in terms of process Blake, could you just provide a little bit more color on what you're seeing upstream versus downstream? Is there any pause at all in your upstream activity, as you're prepping for Sensia to happen? Just any other color there would be helpful.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. We continue to see, oil and gas activity continues strong. We had double-digit growth in the quarter. And as you know, we're a little bit heavier exposed on the upstream and midstream. So we think it's a good time for Sensia.

Besides, oil and gas and process, I mentioned in my prepared remarks about Green Bay Packaging. That was a significant paper machine project with all the ancillary equipment that'll be worth over $10 million to us. So we are seeing CapEx spend in different parts of the process market.

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

Thank you.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Your next question comes from Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Julian Mitchell -- Barclays -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Maybe just starting off with the North America business, you talked about the sharp slowdown there in organic growth in Q2, but a better or there's some sort of exit rates?

So just wondered what should we expect for, North America growth in the second half, versus what you did in Q2. And were there any specific verticals that have seen that pickup?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So Julian for the second half of the year, we expect actually somewhat similar growth rates as we've seen in the second quarter for North America. And so in general we expect continued above-average growth in our Solutions and Services business which are most -- more exposed of course with some of the heavy industries that we're talking about, but our product business is we expected about similar growth rates in Q3, Q4 than what we've seen in the second quarter.

Julian Mitchell -- Barclays -- Analyst

Thank you very much. And then my second question, would be around, if you'd experienced much or any inventory adjustments for some of your particularly products obviously, at any particular clusters of OEMs or distribution? Or whether you felt that inventory adjustments have been in line with kind of normal seasonality?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Julian there is nothing that we've seen that indicates that inventory moves were of significant impact one way or the other on our quarterly results.

Julian Mitchell -- Barclays -- Analyst

Great, thank you very much.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Julian.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Julian.

Operator

Your next question comes from Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Yeah. Good morning.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

I'm having some problems here with the mute button. So a quick question. Your peers Seimens and Schneider have been quite cautious on The Street market commentary in general ABB as well. And obviously you called out automotive down 20%, that's about a two-point drag to your guidance initially.

But I'm wondering, how was the health of your other three markets. And then, in particular I'm thinking about semis and just general manufacturing. How would you describe the health ex-auto industry?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

So when we look at the other, let's say clusters of more discrete industries than Consumer. We continue to see good growth there. There is a mix of discrete and process applications there. But through the year I mentioned just a few minutes ago about the big project in pharma, Life Sciences continues to be a very strong growth vertical for us. And there's growth in other parts of Consumer as well. We also mentioned that Tire was a bright spot in this quarter. Tire is a great fit for our offering, because it has elements of process as well as discrete. And Tire is strong in the worldwide picture as well.

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Okay, great. And semi. I think you were talking about that being up mid single-digits. Is that playing out the way you expected?

Semi for the quarter Nigel was down about mid single-digit.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

After a couple of years of strong double-digit growth semiconductor has moderated. We continue to participate in projects largely around the environmental control a lot of software-based projects, but we have seen a moderation in semi.

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Okay. No surprise. I know that there's a lot of people in the queue. So I'll leave it there. Thanks guys.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Richard Eastman with Baird. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Richard Eastman -- Baird -- Analyst

Yes. Good morning. Blake, could you just speak to the Information Solutions and Connected Services business? I think you mentioned was plus double-digits. Can you just maybe sift out if any the PTC contribution actually in dollars and pushing that growth rate up. Is there -- can you better define may be how PTC and some of the early wins there have maybe pushed the growth rate up there a bit? Are we seeing that?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

We are seeing that. And while in terms of showing up as revenue, it's still early given the subscription nature of these. It allows us to have richer conversations with customers across really all of our target industries and in multiple geographies. And so PTC's offering, whether it's the ThingWorx or the Kepware or even the Vuforia augmented reality those add to our portfolio. And in addition to the offerings that we internally have been working on the analytics and so on it allows us to bring what is really the industry-leading portfolio to these customers.

And the best proof is what customers are buying. Customers who've had exposure to all of our competitors, our traditional competitors, new competitors are picking us, because our offering and our focus on outcomes is carrying the day. And I would say, it's not just a traditional decision-makers that we're talking to. CIOs are in these discussions. CFOs. In some cases, we're seeing people leading the IoT programs, if these customers actually report to the CFOs and we're happy to have those discussions, because of our focus on business outcomes.

Richard Eastman -- Baird -- Analyst

And just my follow-up question is just around given the mix of business and where we're seeing strength whether on the Heavy Industries process businesses, which typically have a bit -- a longer tail to them. The business feels later cycle in general, when I look at the end markets, the growth in the end markets. How do you assess that? When you look at your front log, the book-to-bill here at 1.02 is -- it's better than 1, but it seems to be a little bit softer than where it's historically run in the second quarter. And any thoughts about kind of length of cycle or what you're seeing from a front log standpoint relative to where you're showing growth in your -- in Rockwell's business?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So first of all book-to-bill in the quarter for Solutions and Services was 1.09 and so we thought that that would help for the second quarter. And we believe that the quarter does point to success and increasing our exposure to additional industries some of which are traditionally looked at as more life cycle. So we talk about strength in oil and gas and in mining. We see even in some of the more traditionally short cycle businesses adding the new value through the Information Solutions and Connected Services. Taken together they really are part of our very deliberate attempt to find more ways to win and to increase recurring revenue because in each of these areas there's a high component of subscription-based software and recurring service revenue.

Richard Eastman -- Baird -- Analyst

Okay. Thank you much.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from Deepa Raghavan with Wells Fargo Securities. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Good morning guys.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Your commentary -- just to suggest that things were pretty much in line with what you were expecting with perhaps the exception of Automotive. Outside of organic, probably currency was a bigger headwind. But my question is with regards to 2019 organic growth guide up higher end at 5%, what kind of gets you there at this time? I mean Automotive you seems to -- you've obviously slashed your expectations there, but what are the other industries that could get you to that high end of organic growth guide?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So, in Heavy Industries, it would be the continued strong growth in Heavy Industries through the year that takes us to that high end and then Automotive meeting the expectations that we talked about earlier.

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Okay. So, you're not necessarily assuming Automotive's get -- I mean you're assuming there's some -- it gets better from comps and stuff, but you're not necessarily expecting it to bounce back to positive on a year-over-year basis. Obviously, you're seeing it down 10%, but it's not--

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

We think we've taken a realistic approach to Automotive as were factored in the guidance for the year.

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Got it. Got it. So, you're pretty strong in Europe especially with the OE machine builders. I mean that region is weakening and looks like your outlooks probably contemplate that slow down. But can you right-size us on what your regional expectations are within that full year guide now organic growth? Thank you.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

So, we think that for EMEA, we think it will be about the company average in terms of organic growth. Yes for the full year. We strengthened in Tire and in Consumer.

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

How about the other regions too?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

You mean for the--?

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

No, China, Americas, et cetera?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Sure. For the full year we now expect North America to be a little bit below the company average at the midpoint, EMEA at above the company average, Latin America we expect to be our strongest region, double-digit growth, Asia we expect to be at above the company average, and same for China, above company average for China for the full year.

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Robert McCarthy with Stephens. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Robert McCarthy -- Stephens -- Analyst

Good morning. If you could just review your Auto performance in the context of A&S and CP&S and talk about what you saw in terms of your bridging year-over-year for the operating profit decline on a dollar basis? Is there anything -- any kind of color you can give us there just so we get a sense of kind of the mix headwind?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes, the way I would answer that question Rob is that our Automotive business would be overweight in Architecture & Software versus Control Products & Solutions. So, the largest impact of Automotive would be on Architecture & Software including logics compared to the Control Products & Solutions segment.

Robert McCarthy -- Stephens -- Analyst

All right. Thank you for that. And then in terms of PTC, could you talk about how that relationship is going? And then in particular should we expect any kind of further product enhancements or launches around there for confab in Boston in June the ThingWorx?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So, Rob you may have heard last night when PTC announced they talked about good bookings growth in IoT and satisfaction probably more than satisfaction with the relationship and we agree with that. We're seeing good success. We've had -- this really energized our salesforce with 1,500 people in the organization trying on the PTC products and how they add to the overall solution.

And the best proof is that customers in all industries and in all geographies are voting with their wallets that this is a great solution. So, we think it's going well. It speaks well to the future and the additional value that we can provide from financial standpoint. This contributes to our ability to more than double the $300 million of Information Solutions and Connected Services business that we had last year. In 2022, that's profitable growth with a high element of recurrent revenue from subscriptions and services. So, we're very happy with the progress of the relationship.

Robert McCarthy -- Stephens -- Analyst

Thanks for your time.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Rob.

Operator

Your next question comes from Andy Kaplowitz with Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Vladimir Bystricky -- Citi -- Analyst

Good morning, guys. This is Vlad Bystricky on for Andy.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Morning.

Vladimir Bystricky -- Citi -- Analyst

So shifting back to the regions a bit. EMEA's strength in the quarter is a little surprising just given some of the headlines we've seen out of Europe. So can you talk about what changed versus 1Q, 2019 when EMEA was down to now mid single digit growth and the growth that you're talking about seeing for the remainder of the year?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

I'll make a couple of comments and then Patrick might have some as well. As we mentioned, in EMEA, the growth was led by consumer. And tire was especially strong. As I mentioned before tire is a good industry for us and a lot of the tire builders are in Europe and there was some significant purchases that contributed to those results.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. I would also say the last quarter we said that our backlog looks good and were a little bit higher that we expected some organic growth in the balance of the year which is what we started seeing in the second quarter. So, we expect some modest growth in EMEA for the balance of the year as well.

Vladimir Bystricky -- Citi -- Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then just on the free cash flow outlook. I know you mentioned some of the headwinds that impacted F2Q. But can you talk about, one, whether the weakening in auto and -- was any incremental drag on free cash in the year and then just given the unchanged guidance your level of confidence in driving that acceleration in the back half of the year.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So, we don't believe that auto has a significant impact on free cash flow other than, of course, a drag on sales that we've been seeing. In terms of our confidence, obviously, we have high confidence. We're going to be able to deliver 100% free cash flow for the year. That's why our guidance remains unchanged compared to the one we provided last quarter. And obviously that guidance is second half weighted.

Vladimir Bystricky -- Citi -- Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from John Walsh with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

John Walsh -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, John.

John Walsh -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Hi. So a lot of ground covered, but I wanted to go back to your comment around acceleration on the Information Solutions and Connected Services. Continues to grow double-digit. That can mean a lot of things. Can you kind of talk about the order of magnitude of the acceleration you're seeing?

And then I guess as a follow-up to that one of the things we picked up over at Hannover is that payback periods are shortening on some of these investments. What's actually driving that acceleration in your mind? Is it quicker paybacks? Is there something else as people prepare for 5G kind of anything you think?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Well, we are seeing acceleration and its strong double-digit growth in the quarter which is helped by the PTC relationship complementing our own internally developed offerings. I think the biggest factor toward the growth of our business and really of the whole market is the ability to deliver positive business outcomes. So, you have to start with the ability to quantify what savings you're providing for that customers. Everything else is really just talk. And so by focusing on helping those customers get to market faster being able to increase the OE with operational productivity, the predictive maintenance, we understand those areas and the specific ways that we can help in our target industries. And so payback periods of less than a year should be realistic as company invest in that first pilot, quantifies, the results and then moves on to multisite rollouts.

I would also mention that, our success has been putting the software and the services on top of a wide variety of control systems. In some cases, some part of our logic space systems. Other times, it's on top of the competitors, where we'd come in and added that new value. So it's an exciting area for us to be.

John Walsh -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Great. And then maybe just one quick follow-up on that. So when you do put your -- when you come in and do the integration side of the work if it's not on top of logics, I mean, how does the mix on that project look for Rockwell? Because I would think -- maybe not -- there's obviously going to be multiple projects and they're all going to look differently, but can you just talk about the mix impact that you see in some of those projects?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Sure. In general, it's going to be around the Rockwell average. And so the software is very profitable. When there's the delivery that's more labor-intensive that's going to be a little bit below our average. But regardless of whether we're providing the logics and the drives and so on along with the software and the services, just like bucket the Information Solutions and Connected Services has profitability about the Rockwell average and it has a higher degree of recurring revenue than the Rockwell average.

John Walsh -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Got you. Appreciate it that. Thank you.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, John.

Operator

Your next question comes from Scott Graham with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, Scott.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Kind of a question on tariffs, I know that, you commented that you still fully expect to offset them for the year. I think the number coming into the year was something like $90 million. The plan at the time is as I remember was half price half supply chain, I believe. And I was just kind of wondering if you could sort of A, kind of tell us, where pricing sort of landed in the quarter. B, is there any changes to the buckets? And C, back to B, I guess, with the likelihood of moving up to 25% seemingly much dimmer now does that change the $90 million?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Scott. So with respect to pricing our overall price realization in the quarter was about 0.5 which is consistent with what we expect for the full year. With respect to changes in the tariffs, we still project to have a neutral impact on our financials. The cost versus what we realized through price and negotiations with vendors, if the 10% on this three does not go to 25 the full year impact or the annual impact of nine headwinds will be closer to 70, 75. But then again it wouldn't have an impact on our overall financials because we're targeting it to be neutral for our fiscal year.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

So you --

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

I would say in -- in short it is playing out --

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Sorry.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Scott?

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Please. Well I was just asking then you would pull back on your supply chain initiatives to balance that off?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

No. The way you could think about this is if the $10 million does not go to $25 million there won't be a need for us to be implement another price increase associated with tariffs.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Fine. Okay. Great. Thank you. I want to maybe go back to Auto and beat that horse a little better I guess. So first quarter Auto was down 10 and this quarter you're saying it's down 20. Yet, you're projecting full year minus 10. On a situation, it looks like it actually deteriorated further this quarter. And I know you said, you've outlined the side on some things and also I think you're facing minus 10 comps in the second half. But I'm just kind of hoping you could give us a little bit more on kind of how we get there into the minus 10 in the second half of the year?

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Scott. So the way you can think about this whereas Q2 was down about 20% year-over-year, it was pretty much flat compared to our first quarter. And so for the balance of the year, we expect Automotive in Q3 and Q4 to be slightly up low-single-digits related to some of the larger projects that we know are in flight. And so, call it, flattish to slightly up for the balance of the year. From a year-over-year point of view, we still expect Auto to be down, just not as much as 20% year-over-year in Q3 and Q4.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

So Auto rest of year, flat to slightly up from the first half, but down year-over-year?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Correct.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Got it. If I could just sort of sneak one last question in here, and it's kind of more to do about what your customers are saying out there. And you've given us great color, and I certainly appreciate that. But I was hoping maybe a little bit more from the customers' standpoint away from the PTC agreement, which I know is working the whole thing. But when you're doing the portion of CapEx of your sales, customers kind of know now where they're going to be by the end of the year. So I was just wondering if you can sort of give us some flakes of what the customers are saying maybe in Heavy Industries. We've talked about Auto maybe in the consumer areas, what the customers specifically are saying, and if possible maybe loop in how orders in those businesses are.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Right. So, we've mentioned before that in process, we continue to see CapEx being released, and it's reflected in some of the projects that we're talking about. We talked previously in Life Sciences, Pfizer. Today we talked a little bit about Lonza in Europe. Green Bay packaging was $0.5 billion CapEx project, in which we're playing a major role here in the U.S.

In Automotive, I mentioned that the CapEx that they are releasing has contenders for the uses of that CapEx with some of the electric vehicle, autonomous vehicle development in addition to capacity moves and model changes, and that has resulted in some of the delays of the projects in Auto.

Our machinery builders and consumer continue to report healthy backlogs in their business, particularly in food and beverage. I mentioned Life Sciences. And so in general, there remains growth and there remains spending across the broad base of industries, automotive being a bit of the outlier particularly in North America.

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

That's really helpful. Thanks a lot, guys.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

You're welcome. Thank you.

Steven W. Etzel -- Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer

Operator, we'll take one last question.

Operator

Great. Thank you. And your last question here comes from Justin Bergner from G. Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Justin Bergner -- G. Research. -- Analyst

Good morning and thank you for taking question. In addition to the Auto guides sort of bringing down your organic full year guide by about 50 basis points, are there any...

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Hello? Justin, you've cut out.

Operator

And Justin Bergner, if you can press star 1 again to requeue.

Justin Bergner -- G. Research. -- Analyst

Hi. Hopefully, I'm live again. I was asking outside of Auto bringing down your full year organic guide by about 50 basis points. Are there any end markets that look materially better or worse with implicit in your full year outlook versus how they looked a quarter ago?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Justin, I would say no. There's always some puts and takes that move a little bit, but it's really Auto that was the big mover of all our verticals.

Justin Bergner -- G. Research. -- Analyst

Okay. And on the segment margin performance the strong increase in the margin in Control Products & Solutions seem to absorb a mix headwind in terms of Solutions growth versus Products growth. Any sort of comment there on how you delivered such a good margin improvement while absorbing that mix headwind?

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So there was the modest headwind of mix between Control Products & Solutions. The main driver of the segment margin expansion was strong year-over-year organic sales growth, partially offset by higher spending. Those were really the big movers within that segment.

Justin Bergner -- G. Research. -- Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Justin.

Steven W. Etzel -- Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer

Thank you. I'll turn it over to Blake for a few final comments.

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

So just to summarize, we delivered 8% adjusted EPS growth driven by top line growth in all regions and in key verticals other than Automotive. Two of our larger strategic investments, PTC and Sensia are progressing well. We are accelerating the execution of our strategy. I'm very encouraged to see employees and partners embrace our new ways to win, expanding value for customers and share owners.

Steven W. Etzel -- Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer

Okay. That concludes today's call. Thank you for joining us.

Operator

And that concludes today's conference call. At this time, you may disconnect. Thank you.

Duration: 56 minutes

Call participants:

Steven W. Etzel -- Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer

Blake Moret -- Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

Patrick Goris -- Chief Financial Officer

Scott Davis -- Melius Research -- Analyst

Steve Tusa -- JPMorgan -- Analyst

John Inch -- Gordon Haskett -- Analyst

Jeff Sprague -- Vertical Research -- Analyst

Julian Mitchell -- Barclays -- Analyst

Nigel Coe -- Wolfe Research -- Analyst

Richard Eastman -- Baird -- Analyst

Deepa B. N. Raghavan -- Wells Fargo Securities -- Analyst

Robert McCarthy -- Stephens -- Analyst

Vladimir Bystricky -- Citi -- Analyst

John Walsh -- Credit Suisse -- Analyst

Scott Graham -- BMO Capital Markets -- Analyst

Justin Bergner -- G. Research. -- Analyst

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