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JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon downplays Fed rate cuts: 'It's a minor thing'

JPMorgan Chase CEO (JPM) Jamie Dimon is one big Wall Street figure who isn't that concerned about what the Federal Reserve does at the end of its policy meeting Wednesday.

Whether the central bank cuts its benchmark rate by a smaller 25 basis points or a bigger 50 basis points, "it's not going to be earth-shattering," the boss of the biggest US bank said Tuesday at a conference hosted by Georgetown University’s Psaros Center for Financial Markets and Policy. "It doesn’t mean that much."

When the Fed lowers or raises rates, he added, "it's a minor thing," explaining that "underneath that, there's a real economy."

UNITED STATES - DECEMBER 6: Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase, testifies during the Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee hearing titled
Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase. (Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images) (Tom Williams via Getty Images)

Dimon, though, did say he supports the Fed's easing of monetary policy and the central bank's chairman, Jerome Powell.

"I think they need to do it," he said. "And I think that Jay Powell does do a great job.”

Dimon has been warning for some time that the US economy could be more vulnerable than some market observers think, having voiced concerns about a potential stagflationary environment where inflation remains elevated and some rates surge to 7% as the labor market weakens.

"I am not sure if the world is prepared for 7%," he said at a conference in India a year ago.

As recently as August, he said he was still "a little bit skeptical" that the inflation rate would fall back to the Fed’s 2% target. He also said then that the odds of a recession still happening were better than the chance of a no recession.

The coming rate cuts, however, will have an effect on the bank.

Last week, JPMorgan COO Daniel Pinto alarmed investors when he said that the consensus view among analysts that the bank would earn $91.5 billion in 2025 was “a bit too optimistic” due partly to the effect of falling rates.

FILE PHOTO: A view of the exterior of the JP Morgan Chase & Co. corporate headquarters in New York City May 20, 2015.  REUTERS/Mike Segar/Files
A view of the exterior of the JPMorgan corporate headquarters. REUTERS/Mike Segar/Files (Reuters / Reuters)

While admitting the bank’s financial projections for next year weren't complete, Pinto said JPMorgan was guiding for expenses to run higher in light of inflation and some other investments while its biggest profit driver, net interest income, looked to be lower due to falling rates.

Net interest income measures the difference between what banks earn on their assets (loans and securities) and pay out on their deposits.

Read more: What a Fed rate cut would mean for bank accounts, CDs, loans, and credit cards

JPMorgan's stock fell the most intraday since 2020 following Pinto's comments. It was also down slightly on Wednesday.

Year to date, the stock is still up over 20%.

While speaking Tuesday, Dimon also did not hold back when blasting bank regulators over a new set of capital rules designed to protect lenders against future losses, even after a top Fed official last week scaled back a new version of those rules.

Big banks like JPMorgan and Bank of America (BAC) would now have to increase their capital levels by 9% in aggregate. That is down by half from the original plan from more than a year ago, which set the capital increase to around 19% for those institutions.

"It's been going for 10 years. I would have got it done in six months. I find it unbelievable," Dimon said.

Banking regulators testify before a Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee hearing in the wake of recent bank failures, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., May 18, 2023. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein
Banking regulators testify before a Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee hearing in the wake of recent bank failures, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., May 18, 2023. REUTERS/Evelyn Hockstein (REUTERS / Reuters)

But big banks are still waiting until the Fed releases the full proposal, which is expected to feature hundreds of pages of revisions to the original 1,000-page document along with a quantitative impact assessment.

"I don't care about relief. I want the work to be done properly. That's it, an honest assessment, and even after that, I’d say 10% more capital would be fine with me," Dimon added.

Read more about the long-awaited Fed interest rate cut:

An earlier version of this story misstated the net interest income that analysts expected JPMorgan Chase to earn next year. We regret the error.

David Hollerith is a senior reporter for Yahoo Finance covering banking, crypto, and other areas in finance.

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