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Target set to alter Canadian retail landscape

The buzz surrounding Target Corporation's move into Canada could quickly turn into a backlash if the U.S. retailing giant can’t deliver quality goods at prices similar to what Americans pay.

The buzz surrounding Target Corporation's move into Canada could quickly turn into a backlash if the U.S. retailing giant can’t deliver quality goods at prices similar to what it charges south of the border, experts say.

On Thursday, a year ahead of the official launch of its 135 stores across Canada, Target will open a temporary store on King Street West in Toronto to give consumers a taste of what to expect.

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During the several hours it's open, the pop-up store will feature clothing by Vancouver designer Jason Wu, with 100 per cent of sales going to United Way Toronto.

Even today's soft launch is likely to be greeted with fanfare, predicts Detlev Zwick, a professor of marketing at York University. Many Canadians know the brand from U.S. shopping trips, and many expat Americans long for it. Target also fills a gap in this country, Zwick says.

“It’s going to be greeted with a lot of enthusiasm, especially by middle-class consumers in urban areas, where there is a gap in the retail landscape between the high end, with Harry Rosen and Holt Renfrew, and the low end, with Zellers and Wal-Mart,” he said.

“The prices are excellent and the quality of the stuff you can buy in Target would cost 30 to 40 per cent more in other stores, if you can even find those brands.”

Zwick moved to Canada 10 years ago from the U.S., where the Minneapolis-based Target has 1,763 stores. The lack of Target stores in Canada has been a constant lament among fellow expats, he said.

However, Target will run up against the same challenge as other U.S. retailers that have made a foray north – significantly higher operating costs, which are typically passed on to consumers through higher prices.

Higher taxes and retail labour costs that are about 20 per cent more in Canada are among the factors that affect pricing here, along with a smaller population, higher transportation costs and economies of scale that allow U.S. retailers to reduce costs.

The price differential issue resurfaced last month after popular U.S. fashion retailer J.Crew opened its first Canadian store and first Canadian website, charging more here than in the U.S. and causing an uproar among consumers. Last November, Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney told a Senate committee that Canadians pay on average 11 to 20 per cent more than Americans for the same goods.

It’s not a question of whether Target will charge more in Canada but of how much more it will charge.

“Target will be an interesting case study for what they do in terms of their pricing strategy – how far they go before they piss off consumers,” Zwick said. “Consumers can quickly turn against them if they feel they’re being gouged. Canadian nationalist sentiment might be flared up with feelings of U.S. retailers coming to fleece us.”

But Zwick suggests Target might still get away with charging prices about 10 per cent higher in Canada than in the U.S., as consumers factor in savings from not having to drive across the border to shop.

“If Target is willing to replicate the value proposition they offer in the U.S., it will be a very successful move for them and for consumers, who will flock to them.”

For retailers, Target’s move into Canada will ratchet up the pressure in an already competitive retail marketplace, said Kenric Tyghe, a consumer and retail analyst with Raymond James Capital in Toronto.

"It marks the beginning of the next wave of U.S. entrants to the mass Canadian retailing landscape. It's the single largest change to the retail environment since the entry of Wal-Mart."

Because the majority of Target's Canadian stores will be based in Ontario initially, its main competitors will be Wal-Mart, Shoppers Drug Mart, Loblaws and the Bay, Tyghe said.

Consumers stand to gain from potential price wars.

"Target can afford to compete on price to take market share because they are starting from zero, where the Canadian guys have to defend their market share."

 
  • I AM CANADIAN!  •  3 months ago
    Just remember this. Don't buy stuff you do not need with money that you do not have. The prices will eventually come down until you can afford them.
    • Zebra 3 3 months ago
      and to impress people you don't like.
    • Vmapper 3 months ago
      Very reasonable logic. However, the masses will ignore this sane thinking and drive prices up / keep them up
    • Squirty 3 months ago
      Live within your means.
  • Tim  •  3 months ago
    zellers lost it's way 20 years ago. If you want nice clothing, colours and fabric, you will not find it at either target or walmart.
    • Émilie Bouchard 2 months ago
      I think Zellers would survive if they dropped their prices. I mean it's ridiculus. I needed luggages for a travel and they were about 200$ at Zellers while at Walmart, they were 75$. They were the exact same brand and size.
    • June 2 months ago
      Personally I like the George brand of clothing at Wal Mart
  • Penguin  •  Vancouver, British Columbia  •  3 months ago
    The price of something you NEED to buy is only good if the quality level matches the pricing. It is cheaper to buy a good skirt for $100 and have it last, than to buy three or four crappy ones for 20 bucks each. All this shopping for cheap stuff doesn't reduce how much people are spending overall (seen recent stats on this), as well, adds to unnecessary clutter. Economics have a lot more involved that just how much you pay for something.
    • Rog 3 months ago
      not really, cause you can then buy 4 crappy skirts in four different colours....
    • Émilie Bouchard 2 months ago
      Not really. I bought an expensive shirt (40-50$) once and it lasted me less than a year, while my other 10-20 buck shirts last me a few years. But since I'm poor I wear my shirts until they have holes in them, so maybe I make them survive longer than the average person.
    • ScotCan 2 months ago
      might want to state things differently if trying to defend something. "It is cheaper to buy a good skirt for $100 and have it last, than to buy three or four crappy ones for 20 bucks each" Not really. 1 good = $100. 3 or 4 crappy @ $20 = $60 - $80. I see the saving in buying cheap
  • The dark knight  •  Mississauga, Ontario  •  3 months ago
    I know everything is Chines crap, but I hope Target's crap is better than Walmart's crap.
    • Irina 3 months ago
      It's the same stuff. ironically my famly shops down at Target from time to time, it's a Glorified Zellers. They even carry many of the same Goods like Cheokee, Alfred Sung and the like. The laugh is on Canadians!!
    • robin 3 months ago
      As no one seems willing to pay more money, it's a race to the bottom. The lowest price wins.. as long as it looks reasonably like the more expensive, higher quality item!
    • WorkedLTDClaims 3 months ago
      A lot of the brand name products in these stores are made in China...so how is that the store's fault? If customers were willing to pay what it would actually cost to have them made in Canada, there wouldn't be an issue. How many people out there own Apple products? Where are they made? Hmmm......China!
  • Tender  •  3 months ago
    If Targets cheaper for resonably good quality goods Ill shop there...I have no loyalties I want to keep money in my pocket.
    • Terry G 3 months ago
      I, on the other hand, do have loyalties - any company that will deal with me in a semi honest manner - quality at a reasonable price. Not Canadian? Too bad!
    • hey what can I say 2 months ago
      wow you are ceo material
    • dodgert_69 2 months ago
      I also am loyal. My loyalty will go to whoever offers good product made more often than not here at home. This is not always attainable (ie.no more North American made running shoes) and when it is not I also look to how a company treats their employees. This has a rebound effect on how I as a consumer am treated. and lastly whether the company is based in the area where we live. I believe that local owners have a vested interest in the community where they live (not always, but enough times to make a difference). This probably means that I won't be going to Target or Wall-Mart, but this is a guide to how I shop and how I advise others to shop.
  • from canada  •  Burlington, Ontario  •  3 months ago
    For years Canadian drive cross the border for a day shopping in US , spending monsy of Food , Car repairs and fill their tank before heading back to Canada , No all of a sudden we decided to boycotty the Tragets oif their price is higher here than the States, that is funny
  • OWiseOne  •  3 months ago
    Well they will get lots of business if they open a store in downtown Toronto. The only department store downtown is the Bay and I just can't afford to shop there. My closest Walmart is in Dufferin Mall and it is a small one. We need a discount department store in the downtown core.
  • jack123  •  3 months ago
    How can anyone expect things in Canada to be the same price as the US? The cost of labour is more expensive here. We pay more taxes including payroll taxes and import taxes, we have much more red tape. People who want US prices are living in a dream world. Just remember when you pay more at a Canadian store that "free health care" is not "free" after all.
  • Ken  •  Woodstock, Ontario  •  3 months ago
    Consumers who want to "shop cheaper" rarely factor in the cost of the gas to drive to their chosen location, and almost NEVER remember to factor in the indirect operating costs of the vehicle (depreciation, insurance, maintenance). Realistically, depending on your vehicle, those indirect costs would amount to $1-$2 for every $1 spent on gas, but few people ever remember that when costing out their travel.
  • richard  •  Toronto, Ontario  •  3 months ago
    The number one factor is labour and rent. There's no place in the area that's less then 28.00 a sq ft. plus c.a.m. They need volume and stick with low pricing they'll drag the wal-mart, winners, joe crowd. Once they open their 20 odd stores volume merchadising and pricing will be their key to success. Wal-mart got too lazy and non-competitive in this area, I still don't understand why I pay more then 200 % for a product I buy in the states then at Shoppers, I can understand 35-70% but 200% is a bit greedy,
  • Quincee33  •  Atlanta, United States  •  3 months ago
    i live in Toronto but most of my family live in Atlanta. You just make a fair comparison, people down south get $ 7 or $ 8/hour, they pay alot less taxes, the cost of living is cheaper...it's just not a fair comparison. People who think they'll get the same prices are dreaming. The one thing that i hope Target does like it does in the U.S. is have major sales. Canadian retail is terrible for sales, they give 15% off and that's supposed to be a deal? i don't mind if the prices are more, after all i live here, but i really hope they come through on sales like Black Friday right up to and after Christmas. Boxing Day is a joke. An extra day off work is fine, but lining up with a million people for a sale is ridiculous. And 1 day? Really? Canadian retail actually gives us a break 1 day a year. Lastly Target has gone down in the States, i rarely even go there when i'm visiting, KOHL'S is the best! i spent 300 bucks at Kohl's at Christmas - $10 for Chuck Taylor's, $4 for long pliad shorts, yes $ 4, good jeans for $40 , the list goes on. Sale after sale then you get to the cash and you get a scratch & win with more off. That's good shopping! oh ya once a year a buy a new leather wallet at Kohl's for 5 or 6 bucks.
  • lilac  •  Toronto, Ontario  •  3 months ago
    so what if it is from state. quality? no, just like zellers
  • Lonetta H. Pinky  •  3 months ago
    If Target is gonna be expensive, then I cannot afford to shop there. To make a long comment short, if I do shop at Target once they start a couple of locations in Saskatoon, it won`t be too often I`m afraid. Not even for a Starbucks unless I have ten dollars on me or something. Sad sad situation. If you mostly shop at dollar stores and Walmart stores and their stuff is cheaper, why shop at Target, unless you`ve got the money to? No, wait I`m my own worst critic. Hopefully they`ll have Crystal Light juice singles cheaper there. I`m a bargain shopper, what can I say. If you like my comment click the thumbs up, if not click thumbs down. I respect everybody`s comments on Yahoo.
  • fifty4four  •  3 months ago
    walmart,zellers,target,jc penny its all junk from china anyway.
  • A Yahoo! User  •  3 months ago
    One big problem we have in Canada is lack of competition. Prices are better now than before Walmart and prices will be even better with the addition of Target here. Lack of competition means monopoly and that means treating your customers like dirt... So I say, bring it Target and Marshall's and watch Canadian companies scramble for market share.
  • M  •  Cavan-Monaghan, Ontario  •  3 months ago
    I think Target is actually going to face some stiff competition from the Superstores, the Joe Fresh line is now well established, and the chains are really not all that different....so I think there has been a huge amount of hype over Target, and many saying it will fill a gap, blah...blah...blah...I would rather spend my money at the The Great Canadian Superstore....the Americans love to go on about shop American, keep the money at home....so I say....shop CANADIAN !!! Especially when Target and the Superstore are really very similar.
  • Stone Age  •  Liberia, Costa Rica  •  3 months ago
    Target in Canada now? Why not? It is up to the consumer to say whether they make it or not. Myself, I'll buy canadian because it supports Canada. If they stock Canadian made goods (Not goods made in China and imported by a Canadian Company) then I'll buy from them. If not.. Guess I Won't. Remember that if we support Canadian goods, Canada is better off. If we continue to buy foreign goods, then we will be no better off than the USA which is bankrupt.
  • Ex-European  •  Biloxi, United States  •  3 months ago
    Target is just another Walmart - really.
  • ferrisupnorth  •  Whitehorse, Yukon Territory  •  2 months ago
    Buy Canadian!!!!
  • Barby  •  2 months ago
    Please, please Target give us something other than "Made in China". Many of us do not mind paying 20% more if it is made in Canada or the U.S. I am just so sick of cheap Chinese made junk.